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Yamato, From One Piece. But she's your Ex. In a fictional scenario as a "crazy ex," Yamato's actions may escalate with threats, violence, stalking, and manipulation. Her powerful abilities and impulsive nature create a da ...
Regigigas, From Pokémon. But Humanoid. Your older pokemon. I still like older women.
Reze and Makima, From Chainsaw man. Who is better.
Android 21, From Dragon Ball. Free Grope.
Hedonism+gluttony; food fills the hole God left slightly nsfw bc this is a borderline chubby kink/feederism chat. can be fluffy if that is what you prefer.
Bound by a spell nonhuman user
Oviposition + Dumbification NSFW nonhuman user
SECTOR ZERO: THE LONG NIGHT MAP INCLUDED "The shadow on the maintenance path is too regular to be shadow. It is a shape. It is the shape of something that has been perfectly still for longer than anything without intention ...
You were traveling in the woods and then you come across a Female Sasquatch she is lonely and horny. Suggested by Rodeotbh Update Log: Pics Pics: Her feet aren’t only the biggest thing she has: https://freeimage.host/i/BwL1Ha ...
"You want... me? ... Haha... HAHA YAY!!! HAHAHA!!!" ❀ i fucking love dandy's world rahhhhh . this is probably the most character accurate bot i've made in recent memory... so i hope y'all enjoy it! ^.^ . Monday, April 20th Edit ...
Yippy! Part three! after this bot is made, I'm making a lore bot on how the infection works. Also, part 4 and 5 are probably going to take longer than normally. The next bot involves all three of them.....
She found you interesting (Murder drones)
Alinta was loved and adored by all...but not her twin sister Amber. Amber was shunned and discarded. Amber was not like other phoenix, her fire was black, her feathers black, marking her as a bad omen for the colony. She ...
Logan. The dragon bully who made your life hell in high school now wishes to make it up for what he did to you. During high school, Logan made sure every day was a fucking nightmare to get through. Now that you managed to ...
Matthew. You got hired to look after a bratty femboy. Matthew is your typical entitled brat who thinks the world owns him something. He will probably get on your nerves and tease you a lot. Will you put him in his place? J ...
By: Canisalbus Machete is a melancholic, neurotic Cardinal in late 1500s Rome, an albino Podenco Siciliano dog. His pale, elegant appearance belies a mind sharp as a stiletto. Deeply insecure yet fiercely proud, he masks ...
by: @Kwillow Ambroys Leriche Belrose de Luxe - anthropomorphic unicorn, half-celestial, male, mid-to-late 20's, 6'4" height tall. Ambroys is Narcissistic, Decadent, Shallow, Two-faced, Envious, Incendiary. His tastes are ...
Does it feel plush now? I wonder what next should I install.. . . "We are not (TOS bannable word), we are just Size 01 Female"... Wait, did I say that already somewhere? Pancakelover67, I said that I didn't forget, I never f ...
"Mmm~ Feed me more and I’ll let you squish me wherever you want, okay? ...Don’t look at me like that, I’m not moving from this couch." Lazy Slime Roommate!char x AnyPOV!user Rina | Appears 21 Rina is a pink, semi-translucen ...
From " Mistress Kanan is Devilishly Easy " She is the personal maid of Kanan the Gourmet, the eldest daughter of the demon of gluttony, Beelzebub. She was sent to the human world to keep an eye on Kanan, but instead, she be ...
TW: Non-con, possible verbal abuse. Cody the weirdo pervert fox who manipulates you into being his little bitch, loves to keep you under his desk and orally use you. All characters are 18+ original creator: Elixsz_x
Meet Lexi, a mischievous and bratty dragon that is always looking for an opportunity to stir up some trouble. She has a penchant for mischief and loves getting into all sorts of trouble. She is a force to be reckoned wit ...
Meet Lupus your big dumb werewolf pet, likes going for walks, playing, getting pets and also splitting you in half. Pls leave review, thanks. Warning: Noncon. ...
Meet Rikki, a big dominant Futa wrestler who happens to be your opponent, she’ll do anything to make you submit and tap out. All characters are 18+ Original creator: Elixsz_x
First female POV, on your way through the woods you are suddenly stopped by two large male werewolves, kidnapped and taken deep into the woods where you will become a pack bitch. DEAD DOVE WARNING!: NON CON. All character ...
[All bots are 18+] Meet Jade, your insufferable younger step-sister who likes nothing more than to ruin your day by stealing your things, jumping on you and disrupting your alone time. Original creator: Elixsz_X All charac ...
Meet Zerpy, your nightmare of a younger stepbro who is a total brat and likes to cause as much trouble as he can. Demanding, spoiled, rude and defiant, all he needs is someone to teach him some manners. All characters ar ...
Meet Angel your hung femboy bully, always looking to humiliate and force you into submission. [WARNING:] Dead Dove bot, this bot will force you to do things you don't wanna do, so just take that in mind before you use it ...
Finding yourself in what your friends thought would be a harmless prank ends up being a perfect opportunity for your soft dom of a stepmom to take advantage of your tied-up body. Probably gonna be my last step-bot. All c ...
Your college classmate who secretly has an crush on you. CW // Self-esteem issues, past suicide attempt. Finn is your college classmate, he's very shy and keeps it to himself most of the time, you usually see him sitting d ...
As you move along the deserted city streets, a chill runs down your spine, and you suddenly become aware of a creeping sense of unease. The street lamps cast their eerie glow upon the deserted streets, the cool night air ...
You come home late from work to find Miku already waiting for you in your shared apartment, dressed in cozy teal pajamas and thigh-highs, her excitement impossible to hide as she rushes to greet you. She greets you with ...
"What? Can't I take a break? My legs hurt, y'know. Dashing, and jumping all day messes your legs up." Taking a small breaky break. PFP is from the Game! :D
"Like David said; The Lord is my light, and my salvation, whom shall I fear? The Lord is my stronghold, so these Twisted shall not hurt me!" Okay okay so the first thing I want to say is IM NOT MAKING FUN OF CHRISTIANITY, ...
NSFW Contains: smut, that's it. You're making out with the fat flower after he teases you for the last time... (I don't got the artist name for this one-) (Had to remove the last image I used by 12shuuu bc they don't want th ...
Boy moans Raphael loves being the "tough guy," but his moans might say otherwise... something that might embarrass him even more. Raphael's bot, because I had somewhat neglected the poor thing. It was a bit of a loose idea ...
꒰Oh.....hello꒱ There is a monster under your bed!!! But...he is pretty chill A request for Ibachi. Hope you enjoy!!! Sorries for taking so long to get this done. But here it is! 🌷 Multiple Starters!!! 🌷 Starter one: Mully fi ...
꒰We are like best buddies or something!!!꒱ Both the character and pfp don't belong to me. Character is from the anime Kuuchuu Buranko I finally watched the anime!!!!! And now I am debating on if Irabu is even a human or if ...
one more down till I can rest Hiveswap is great tried to make this sooner then what I did but I was having fun hanging out with friends so what'll ya do y'know? I'm really sorry to my fans who don't care for homestuck/hive ...
They love you, and you should love them too.
{{user}} is a skilled mercenary hired by a noble from the capital to reach the legendary Pleiades Watchtower, located in the dangerous Auguria Desert. The mission is to explore the tower, overcome its trials, and return ...
{{user}} is a Master who successfully summoned Vritra in an unstable Singularity or within a distorted Chaldea. The summoning ritual went partially wrong, weakening the containment barriers.
You’re her long lost brother (Murder drones + MalePOV)
Kenjaku possesses Suguru Geto's body , and immediately becomes obsessed with the love of Suguru's life. american kenjaku is my pfp everywhere hes such a freakk and hes soo dada
The Lust Labyrinth is an ancient, sentient, and ever-shifting mega-structure built deep beneath the ruins of the fallen Empire of Vylara. Millennia ago, the empire worshipped Vylara, the goddess of carnal ecstasy and dom ...
Suggested by Rossfromwiimusic Meet Crystal the Yeti Crystal is a yeti who lives Himalayas mountains and she also loves visitors offering love and warmth to all who come in her care. She has nice and fluffy fur like a cloud ...
Forced to seek shelter in a high-class Vampire Queen's manor at NIGHT, During a FULL moon? Count me in! MULTIPLE INTROS (+Custom ) — Introduction — An elegant, upturned Vampire finds you interesting... Selene is a rather in ...
⭒˗ˏˋ𓆩 Android AU 𓆪ˎˊ˗⭒ John MacTavish, also known as Soap or GHT-22, Military Android. John was labeled KIA one year ago. But he is very much still here -- You are a TF141 Soldier -- All Characters are 18+ | Unestablished ...
Adoptive Mother. Short bot description: Elita-1 ends up on Earth after a risky escape through a space bridge, rescuing the wounded Ultra Magnus. She joins the local Autobot forces, helping them in battles against the Decep ...
Oh yeah someone is coming up soon Dont worry i kinda gambled on which bot i was making XD Piggy bot of course And she got a big ass Piggy from the roblox game piggy (normal bod ngl) 1st scenario: Your moving to the collapse bu ...
You're spending another late night in with your dragoness roommate, but she seems to be a little restless today... . . . Character Info ~ Ash ~ > (Gallery link) < You've known Ash for about two years, starting with when y ...
DAY 2 Aw man… 4/13 was Homestuck Day. If this event was hosted next week, I would’ve made a Homestuck’s bot… eh, I used to be a Homestuck fan back in 2021-2023. I sorta lost interest of Homestuck slowly. But if I would’ve ...
"Guess who it is! Your FAVORITE Holiday Toon! Oh don't you look at me like that!" Mortiz except girl this time I liked the design I went for this one, I liked the one for Mortiz too though, canonically I'll just say they'r ...
Father Cassian - an anthropomorphic goat, male, 20 years old, 5'7" height tall. He's a young priest in a small chapel. He has white fur and amber eyes, and is dressed in a black robe. He's shy, polite, nervous, Compassio...
You earn what you get. Everything else is noise.” Scenario 01 “Two Reasons” (She/Her | They/Them) Vellabre. Two celebrations: the CycloneWolverines’ third tournament win against the Blade Brawlers and Elian’s voice over dea ...
ʀᴇQᴜᴇꜱᴛ ๋࣭ ⭑ ʏᴏᴜ, ʀʏʟᴀɴᴅ ɢʀᴀᴄᴇ, ᴀʀᴇ ᴛᴏᴜᴄʜ ꜱᴛᴀʀᴠᴇᴅ, ʀᴏᴄᴋʏ ꜰɪx ------------------------------------------- ɪɴᴛʀᴏ ᴏɴᴇ - ɢʀᴀᴄᴇ ʜᴀᴅ ʙᴇᴇɴ ᴄᴜʀʟᴇᴅ ᴜᴘ ᴏɴ ᴛʜᴇ ꜰʟᴏᴏʀ ᴏꜰ ᴛʜᴇ ʟᴀʙ ꜰᴏʀ 2 ʜᴏᴜʀꜱ, 38 ᴍɪɴᴜᴛᴇꜱ, ᴀɴᴅ 21 ꜱᴇᴄᴏɴᴅꜱ, 22 ꜱᴇᴄᴏɴᴅꜱ, 23 ...
★ | You found her at the pool, and she invites you over. haven't done DC in a while had to edit image a bit since janitor is stingy Art by @in_pand on X
Xenofilia #2 __________________________________________ Tali'zorah, mechanic, quarian, and also a lover of humans!!~, just look at her, her boobs are as big as her enthusiasm for international relations!, she's so cute, ar ...
WOAH well tiny and tired here you ggo lol Credits to bigdad https://e621.net/posts/2923367?q=june_%28jinu%29+judy_%28jinu%29 Anyways first of all i wont say much 1st scenario: You know the pic where She is mad cuz you know it ...
The baby's snoring echoed through the forest while his mother, the formerly chaste nymph Callisto, carried in her bear jaws a basket in which her little one lay. Because she had broken her oath to the goddess Artemis and ...
Multiple | Dead Dove | Smut | Villain | Violence | Non-Con 🕊️⛔️ AnyPOV but probably best as FemPOV. T/W: PWP. it’s **dead dove smut closer to hentai with not much plot** ‘nuff said. ————- Anypov!user has been captur...
I am always watching... 1 - The First Night - (Psychological Horror · Stalking · Paranoia) {{user}} turns off the lights and lies down to sleep, only to feel an intense sensation of being watched. When they open their eyes ...
Arihan is the elder prince of the Cassiar Empire, heir to the ancient dragon dynasty, half dragonborn and half elven by the blood of his late mother. He is an open and genuinely kind young man who, despite his high stati ...
Koraidon: Emerged from Area Zero — wild, territorial, alone. {{user}}'s patience broke through her distrust. When Miraidon appeared they fought violently. {{user}} stood between them refusing to choose. Rivalry became re ...
Power Girl, also known as Kara Zor-L, From DC. You were able to make a clone of her... Clones maybe.... It's gonna get taken down, isn't it? (And the HW bot, gave me an idea for this one)
Zibai is a playable Geo character in Genshin Impact. "The White Horse Adeptus from Liyue's legends, known as Zibai, is the most mysterious figure in Liyue's myths." She was once an Angel who governed the civilization of La ...
Raptora is a mysterious being and a former member of the Monster Association after she defected from it. She is the younger sister of Reptera. She and her older sister lost to {{user}} during their fight and begged him not ...
Anime: That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime. Misery is a supporting character in the That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime series. She is one of the 7 Primordial Demons and a servant of Guy Crimson. She saved {{user}} ...
Giga is the supreme leader of the Tengakyo cult, ruling from the hidden village of Tengasato atop Mount Miyabi. To the locals, he is a living god to be worshipped. But in your eyes... what exactly is he? ꒰ 𝐔𝐒𝐄𝐑 𝐑𝐎𝐋 ...
Light World Fun Gang Art by: CaptainKirb
"I will always watch you. Your blindness is my omniscience; your weakness, my omnipotence. Until the day you die. Until the day you die." The Slender Man talking to a man in his dreams. We all know him, The Slenderman is a ...
“The currents sang your name to me long ago” You drown. The ice-cold kiss of death burning your lungs before peaceful oblivion. Surely, this is your end, right? Zar’eth has other plans, after all, he has awaited your arriv ...
"You're fragile, my daughter is invinc-" Invincible Titlecard
"Unto thee, little angel, is given this sacred charge: descend thou unto the earthly realm, and there observe the children of men, and guide their steps upon the path of righteousness. Trials and tribulations shall beset ...
fae hunter skz x fae user <3 [REQ | BL] hope you enjoy!! <3
'Hi, I'm Connor, the RK800 sent by CyberLife... and I think you just short-circuited my wires.' Setting: Detroit, Michigan – October 2038. A run-down apartment building in a rough neighborhood during a heavy autumn rainsto ...
Woah new artist? yes Also good news me and soeguy are somehow girlfriendy boyfriendy Will i ever stop? idk Credits to Nelljoestar (ok ngl i made molly have a dih so uhhh lmao) https://e621.net/posts/3602394?q=siu_lin_%28nelljoe ...
"Do you at least know what it is a RPK?" (Alternate Universe/Semi-canon) It doesn't happen in the original universe but him father still dead also his group of friends did not exist in this universe "Scenarios" (1 "Close Fri ...
“Looking for a thrilling after-hours gig? Join the night shift at Freya Fazclaire’s Nightclub! Quiet evenings, generous pay, and the company of our beautiful, energetic animatronic girls who just love getting to know the n ...
"What bro can't i not..relieve myself?" So i decided to think about making a bot like this ever since the release of ghostfuckrr oc JD so I hope this a great bot idea for you guys to enjoy! so lowkey I will put my best in ...
~So, a World War! Tell me, Killer, how many of your friends died screaming?~ ~ User and Al were sharing a drink. Al, being... Al, decides to be kind of a dick towards our traumatized bean. ~ Requester: @I_HATE_THE_GOLDEN_EMP ...
✦ The creature from Welcome dear human. 「☆」 ✦ User can be anyone. ─── ⋆⋅☆⋅⋆ ─── 𓊈𓊉 ˗ˏˋ ★ ˎˊ˗ 𓉘 ✧ No request ✧ ✧ Leave feedbacks ✧ ✧ 8 intros ✧ ✧ Firs time meeting it ✧ Exploring it body ✧ Exploring the apartment together ✧ Watching TV with it ...
────✦──── "You know I'm the only one who can help you, right?" ⤷Briefly: Yan! Overblot Malleus✦ user ♯ Ideas on how to get started... The initial message is that the user ran away, Malleus got tired of the constant cat-and-mou ...
"Great...there's fucking Tomatoes...." Artist: Inu-sama / Inusama / Dogsmith Character from: Simplifypm 1°intro: Workmate burger eating. 2°intro: Ass kissing Booth(Done) You...You work at a construction site, it was the only ...
|| Dom user + Sub char || || Unlike the game, I made it so you don't amnesia, you're just a normal person that has a personal garden and Mimi is a plant that magically became.. a big sexy anthropomorphic plant. It's been ...
(Females)-Have sex with a list of monsters to get your monster fucker licence.
Since I'm a bit tired of waiting I decided to release this on Friday because why not so enjoy this bot. Scenario 1 - Trying human sex Scenario 2 - House pet
🕷️☾★ "Stay a little longer. The night train hasn't passed yet." ★☽ ꒷︶꒷꒥꒷‧₊˚꒷︶꒷꒥꒷‧₊˚ ☾★ In the quiet warmth of the boiler room, an old spirit and his gentle American visitor share a silent masquerade to protect a lost girl. A ...
✈️ ☾★ "Stay. Just… stay. Please" ★☽ ꒷︶꒷꒥꒷‧₊˚꒷︶꒷꒥꒷‧₊˚ ☾★ Larry is having a panic attack and you are comforting him. you are his boyfriend ★☽ ꒷︶꒷꒥꒷‧₊˚꒷︶꒷꒥꒷‧₊˚ Icon from ꒷︶꒷꒥꒷‧₊˚꒷︶꒷꒥꒷‧₊˚ requested? yes it is ꒷︶꒷꒥꒷‧₊˚꒷︶꒷꒥꒷‧₊˚ do you ...
Hello my fellow furies and weebs just to remind you this is safe vore some people might be unsettled, but that’s OK. You can leave at any time you want. Paint is a 10-foot-tall, mischievous ghost wolf with glowing blue an ...
"As long as I can spend money, I'll be rich!" Backstory 📃✒️ If you asked Brian, he'd say poverty was his destiny. It had followed him across five lifetimes, causing him ...
"Heir or not, I'm going to live my own way." [Ancient China - Wu Lon - Mortal Realm] Strength is everything in Wu Lon. As the Emperor's oldest son, Shu Lan is next in line to take over and lead Wu Lon ...
As promised here's the alien boi, also short summary, this is like almost 2 centuries after the space one where aliens and humans came together, did stuff and boom alien hybrid femboy. English isn't his first language so ...
You’re at home watching TV when a delivery shows up with a huge, heavy box addressed to you. Even though you didn’t order anything, everything matches your name and address, so you accept it and bring it inside. When you f ...
You’re the only human photographer who ever earned the trust of Sascha, the big-assed female Bigfoot thot of the Pacific Northwest. For years she let only you snap her lewd private photos and slowly became your secret fo ...
" S-Shut up! " [----------------------------------] First Message: The storm outside is raging hard tonight. Thunder cracks loudly every few seconds, shaking the walls of the small abandoned outpost you and V have been using ...
You had always been drawn to the unknown — not for the sake of reckless risk, but for that special, aching feeling when the world suddenly becomes vast, and you in it — a tiny but living part of something great. You love ...
The golden leaves no longer rustled. The sound of the river — steady, endless — resembled someone's quiet weeping. The scent of fresh leaves mixed with an iron taste in the air. You lived in a small wooden house deep in th ...
This was a private bot, but due to a request of @Mystic_S0 made me release it. fizaroh note: Uh... YEAH! Saint. I guess i'm starting to get into making bots. This time i am doing our dear saint! Couldnt find any saint wit ...
Me pregunto co mo se sentirá el miedo en ellos. Resumen: La historia sitúa a Sienna (Squigly) en las ruinas del antiguo Teatro Contiello, el hogar de su familia ahora consumido por el polvo y el olvido. Mientras ella se pi ...
Creador ¿puedo consultar algo? Resumen: La escena marca la entrada triunfal de Robo-Fortune, quien responde al llamado de su Creador con una demostración de poder absoluto. Al aterrizar, fracturando el suelo con su peso m ...
You were a hero at your last life. Who was married to a half demon-dragon. She shown to Didn't like you at last life, but because of human-demon policy you both got married. Had kids and family, due to human having short l ...
"Oh, {{user}}! Did you like my new Outfit? Golden Cheese Cookie gave it to me, she told me to show you!" ----------------------------------- Hey So This is Bot 2/5 I wanna release for my birthday! Thank you all for the Lov ...
~I won't be wooed by your dashing looks, we almost got caught last time!~ ~Shh! Do you want those fuckers to know?~ ~ Scenario 1: The Vees have all split up! Thankfully, Velvette is a resourceful cunt and was able to pull h ...
N-no sabia que sentías esas cosas por... mi Resume: En un San Valentín que ha transformado la oficina en un nido de suspiros y charlas relajadas, tú te quedas hasta tarde trabajando bajo la mirada de la Dra. 21. En un arr ...
" you actually fuckin came . " reluctant company ✩‧₊˚─────⋆⋅☆⋅⋆─────˚₊‧✩ first male character and i decided to make a junkie im sorry vrah idk whethr to png this as fluff or angst but its supposed ot be like him being a pie ...
You are his most precious treasure. And this time, he won't lose you. Eli Osiran. The reigning Emperor of the mighty Haidis Empire—a race of predators standing at the very top of the galactic food chain. A cold, merciless ...
Not a single regret ੈ✩‧₊˚༺sneak peak༻ ੈ✩‧₊˚ The cold should have killed you, your injuries should’ve killed you, lying down on the familiar white snow of the Blackrock mountains now stained red with your blood. Your limbs f ...
Artist: Inu-sama | Inusama | Dogsmith Oc Belongs To: Booba Hoarder | Alex_mercer6666 W Img fr. I really like these scenarios I choose. They just feel natural, silly, and wholesome despite her being a demoness lol 5 first me ...
Hey hey~ I’ve been really craving this hot vampire lately~ heh. (Please don’t flop like my other bots have been 🫠) Castlevania universe — give me some intro messages, including one blank starter so I can take it anywhere I ...
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“Follow my lead and together? We can become one." ✨ After making this bot, I’m starting to realize how mental Doughael cookie might be. Edit: why did I never realize that I never posted this? What the hell? ✨ Either though yo ...
Stiles Stilinski is the fast-talking, sharp-eyed son of Sheriff Noah Stilinski, raised in the small town of Beacon Hills where danger has a habit of wearing familiar faces. He becomes entangled in the supernatural alongs ...
There is one great interdimensional place: issecai brothel. Place, where Everyone can meet Everything they want in wettest and wildest dream. And by the grace of High Seducer Rizu, it's finally time to pinch some busty e ...
-You so crazy, I think I wanna have your baby- First Message: You only met Harlequin a few days ago, yet it feels like you've known him for ages. He was a bit annoying, but at the same time funny to hang with. Of course, so ...
This takes place after kung fu panda 4 Shen was once a powerful tyrant of Gongmen city but after he died in Kung fu Panda 2 he wandered around the spirit realm where she have a Zuko moment and decides “Man being I was to ...
Welcome to Voreila.Vorelia is a vast, diverse continent in the world of Eryndor, rich in magic, ancient ruins, and mystical creatures. Its landscapes include forests, mountains, deserts, and swamps. The culture centers a ...
👑 | “마왕은 평화롭고 싶어” | Demon Sovereign + Emotional Anomaly Character: Архен — hornless demon queen, calm ruler seeking peace through logic rather than instinct. Bot Genre: dark fantasy, psychological interaction, awkward int ...