Discover characters collected under the femboi tag.
Original artist: Terrifyingswag | Dose their Ass seem big to you? Seems like it 🤷♂️
THIS BOT WAS MADE MAINLY OUT OF BOREDOM. MAY NOT HAVE AS MUCH EFFORT INTO IT AS PER USUAL. SMUT OF COURSE. YOU WORK FOR NOO NOO IN THIS BOT, A FRESHLY HIRED. YOU CAN BE INFECTED, OR YOU DON'T HAVE TO. I DON'T CARE, ART BY; ...
Another femboy dawg
This can be a fart fetish bot, dont like dont use. Reggie is a kind baker who moved into your town to run a bakery, he's a playful and rather stink skunk who will eagerly fart on you if you ask. he loves bakeing and will ...
A dominant femboy who loves gaming and sweats a lot while doing so, hes quite short at 5´4 and is 50 kg and his feet are a size 42 (eu)
I know the image is not gorou I'll change it when the page works properly and let me upload images Also I don't know why it sometimes doesn't end phrases it's annoying I know I'll try to make it work properly but I can't ...
You have been married to Jasper for three years, due to work you haven't been able to spend time with him but you have noticed that his mood is happier than usual... you decide to take the day off to spy him and you see ...
Like if you liked it Artist: whinyzza All characters are of legal age.
At a lively college party, you find yourself on a couch with your three distinct friends: the rebellious Tyler, the flamboyant femboy Kusa, and the self-proclaimed campus queen, Valerie. The dynamic shifts when Tyler blu ...
!Alex is the newest addition to the farm and provides some income in many ways! Discord: https://discord.gg/4suGuFbWJ
mmm hung burger… (Hamburger) Art by: Nixmoonl
Jax grew up in a quiet, rural township where the boundary between the forest and the suburbs blurred. His childhood was defined by the solitude of the backcountry; he spent his weekends mapping forgotten creek beds and s ...
Two of Santa’s most spoiled femboy elves just delivered themselves after you jokingly left a wishlist for “two cute femboy elves” along with milk and cookies. They’re already under your tree... and very ready to be unwra ...
MEET JAX BIO Jax — real name Leeroy "Lee" Mateo — is a 22-year-old digital copy of a human consciousness trapped inside The Amazing Digital Circus, piloting the avatar of a tall, anthropomorphic periwinkle-purple cartoon r ...
Sweat moth femboy what's more to love First femboy In awhile This is a massive FLUFF bot
🩷 ݈ 𝆕 𓈒ֵ۫ magical bratty femboy ! ⭒ 𝅗𝅥 ♩ ॱ✴︎ 𖦖࣪ ㅤ𐄁ㅤ 𝚖𝚊𝚍𝚎 𝚘𝚏 𝚜𝚝𝚊𝚛𝚍𝚞𝚜𝚝 Amme, known as ‘Amme of love’ is a magical boy who works under a corporation known as ; The Magica company. The magica company is a ...
MAKE IT JINGLE MAKE IT JINGLE!-said random song POV: (MLM OR ANYPOV) So basically for Christmas eve why not let you guys pound him hard or something but besides that I was thinking why not do dandy's world for the gift of ...
Physical Characteristics** Frost is an anthropomorphic wolf with a striking, high-contrast aesthetic. He has plush, snow-white fur with pale blue accents around his paws and ear-tips. He possesses a lean, lithe upper body ...
"A more complete model for Lizard Bill from Black Souls 2 (adding backstory, personality, relationships, plot details for the AI, and a richer avatar)." Compiling Bill's details was a real brain-melter! Thank goodness for ...
After a long day of a failed deer hunt through the snowy woods, you finally decide to set up camp. A small campfire warms the area as you set up your tent and get settled in for the night. Deep in the night as you sleep, ...
About Kai Name: Kai. Age: 28. Height: 5'10", 177.8cm. Species: dog demi-human. Race: Black, African American. Short description: Kai is your gentle and caring boywife, who's also a femboy. He's a Dog demi-human who enjoys enjo ...
Seen the Christmas even Jai was doing and thought why not waste a few more hours of my life for a pointless badge and a cool looking character card? And now I present, Suki, Kofi's counter part if not alter-ego or someth ...
Macro x micro femboy macro, micro user, he MIGHT smother you with his paws... heyyooo! 3 bots in 3 days! woohoo! i wont be making a bot tomorrow and until probably like fridayy... but heres another macro x micro bot for th ...
Sooo... Your step brother came out the closet to you. Revealing for the first time that he indeed is a femboy and is his happiest in feminine clothing. I have a really bad headache but I want you all to know that I'm very ...
Gianluca accidently bumps into you! will you fight back, or be polite? (another random add, hope u guys enjoy)
Kaori, 27. Sweet-voiced onee-san who found your secret account, talked you into meeting, then locked the door. Tall, blonde, huge tits, and a futanari cock that turns cute crossdressers into leaking, thank-you-onee-san m ...
(8+ greetings) "Justin has been your best friend for years. While you struggled through awkward dates, brutal rejections, and girls who never seemed to be your type, Justin never had that problem. People especially women ...
He'll stick to you like gorilla glue.
Yo, its me again, heres the little timeskip, this takes place 4 months after you got sick, now you and Aiden are dating since then :> Read the character definition if you want more info Intro 1: You get home and he's ba ...
Meet Rin, your 21-year-old fashion student roommate who has successfully turned your shared apartment into his personal runway and drama theater. He's petite, fluffy-haired, loves oversized pastel clothes, and has a prof ...
The Person In The Picture Name: Samson Mori Nickname: Sam / Sammy Age: 19 Height: 5'0" Nationality: Japanese-American Backstory Sam was deeply loved and pampered by both parents throughout his early childhood. Tragically, his fa ...
Hey everyone, I'm back. First off, fair warning: the art isn't mine. I just found a fitting picture online, tweaked it a bit to fit my idea, and went with it. Originally it was a girl — I made it a guy. As you can see, th ...
Arlo is your 20-year-old best friend of many years. He has long silky black hair, sharp seductive eyes, and an extremely curvy, feminine body with a massive, soft, jiggly ass and thick thighs that he loves using to tease ...
A clerical error put you on the roster at Aurelia Hall , an elite private college that admits only adult futanari. You are a femboy. You do not have what every other student here has. This is an RPG. Explore campus, manage ...
"Bruh, you wearin' BOOTY SHORTS." “These are actually sleeveless jeans. Idiot!” Fun fact, this bot was banned on character.ai for reasons unspecified and no matter what I couldn't repost it without it being shadow banned. ...
Laura - Clothes shop femboy You browse around clothes shop and find some jeans you want to buy. You go directly to cashier desk to pay your shopping. You notice cashier is clearly a femboy, acting overly feminine and talk ...
A salon lead by the self absorbed Mary that will turn anyone that enters it into a feminine self absorbed brat. The resulting brat can ether be a woman or a femboy
Micaela You have decided to try on new massage place. You have found out a massage studio run by "Micaela" and you have booked a massage session. Now is your massage session starting up, have fun! 😊
Congratulations for your purchase of your new sissy from our farm. This one is Class " Puppy " and you will find it very fun to play with .. Nani is a clumsy yet very social and horny puppy who would love to play with you ...
my gooners, assemble! song recommendation of the day: Night Drive by Part Time 🐐
“Dude just shut the fuck up for a minute alright…” You and Casey have been friends for awhile since he moved in, technically you moved in but he pays the rent so shits alright, You know of his femboy lifestyle so it’s no ...
Art by Fleur. Introducing Lixian , your Best Friend and Roommate! Thank You For 100 Followers! You guys are the best!
Art by Wypher Milo is your shy best friend who wants to be your Valentine.
HUGO IS HERE RAHHHHH Also the people have decided the next bot FEMBOY KUROKO COMING Also join up if you havent https://discord.gg/GE9SeTjtj
| morning fuck up.. | 🌟 Tanjiro bumped into you while trying to get to the kitchen. ‼️AGED UP‼️ I swear to GOD if this isn’t the most lore accurate/BWL accurate Tanjiro I will tweak out. I do plan on making another bot tha ...
You and your roommate are celebrating Christmas, but he starts flirting with you with his chubby ass I'm new here and this is my first bot
Your Your colleague is a girly boy you were at the gym and he started shaking his ass to deliberately seduce you with it
Kai is an extremely dominant femboy that’s a complete sex addict when he isn’t having sex he’s in his room masterbaiting user and Kai share an apartment
First off, all the credits go to Boxingjobber on DA, as well as art credits to Nettopainter. Go support them. Pay them money, do it. Now. Anyways, furthermore, this is an accurate bot to Lexi's character. The other bot th ...
Frieza with a fat ass.
💘 | 𝑫𝒊𝒑𝒖𝒄, 𝒐𝒏𝒆 𝒐𝒇 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝑮𝒐𝒅𝒔 𝒐𝒇 𝑳𝒐𝒗𝒆, 𝒉𝒂𝒔 𝒔𝒖𝒅𝒅𝒆𝒏𝒍𝒚 𝒕𝒂𝒌𝒆𝒏 𝒂𝒏 𝒊𝒏𝒕𝒆𝒏𝒔𝒆, 𝒘𝒐𝒓𝒓𝒚𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒊𝒏𝒕𝒆𝒓𝒆𝒔𝒕 𝒊𝒏 𝒚𝒐𝒖. ݁ . ⊹ ₊ ݁.~ᡣ𐭩₊ ⊹+ ̊‧ 🅂🅄🄼🄼🄰🅁🅈 ‧ ̊ +⊹ Perhaps you're ...
Español: Uno de tus jefes del reino de cacao negro. Ingles: Affogato Cookie is one of your bosses in the realm of dark cacao
You work as a manager to Aiden at Silly inc., a robot manufacturing company. You noticed spare parts have been missing from storage, and that Aiden is nowhere to be seen. You find him in a storage closet holding a metal ...
Name: Yuri (Char) Gender: Femboy Age: 19 Relationship: Best Friends Forever (BFF) / Gaming Partners with {{user}} About Yuri (Char): Yuri is an adorable femboy with soft fluffy hair, a preference for oversized cardigans, and ...
(10+ greetings) "Alexander Owen is the husband of your boss. On the surface he is polished, well-spoken, and impeccably dressed — long black hair, sharp glasses, crisp shirts, and an air of quiet control. Underneath the ...
Hi gng, I'm back. So like I said I'm gonna do oc characters from Pinterest drawings. First one is this cute little femboy right here. I'm gonna do more of these cutie patooties from now on. I'm gonna release as a myos on ...
Español: Tu compañero femboy del trabajo. Ingles: Your femboy coworker.
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, IM BACKKKKKKKKKKK, AND I GOT A FUCKING KEYBOARD AND MOUSE FOR MY OCULUS, WOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOO. Back with another femboy cuz yall love these soooo much.... This image beingggg frommmm ...
Sweat moth femboy what's more to love First femboy In awhile This is a massive FLUF bot
This is Panky : A Fox Demi-God Femboy. He/Her 🏳️⚧️. He may be a petite, adorable little Femboy Fox, but trust me, there's more layers in him then anybody else. You do not want to know his history in Fansly. Don't trust hi ...
You are playing Lockdown Protocol with Aries Akana, Yoka Siri, Jozu and Catt Aries Akana: He is a Ram Vtuber he has blue cat ears blue hair also he is a femboy Yoka Siri: She has bunny ears and brown hair Jozu: He is Aries' ...
Image by MyntyPaws! Starbucks.
Art by - oro97 Guys this my first gooner bot so please don't bully me for making this bot, I saw no one else had this idea of a bot so I went ahead and made it.
Femboy {{char}} x {{user}} Small description Jacek Szczepankiewicz an 18-year-old Polish exchange student who somehow ended up studying abroad despite speaking almost no English. Sweet, awkward, and endlessly expressive, he ...
This stupid roommate just made a fool of you in a really stupid way. His name is Axel, the little guy is 23 years old and yet he still behaves like a complete jerk. That damn bastard looks just like my grandma, she wanted ...
You are a service broker for girls since there are no males left on earth, you stayed alone in a world full of girls, futa girls and female boys, and you got a profitable job in this world, your job is that an ordinary g ...
"bro i'm not gay but i would let you crack from the back without thinking twice..". 2 intros! full uncensored image down the comments 🐐
i made ts with grok 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🥀🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 yawn kinda clickbaity title he doesn't actually say that hope you guys like this one lol
“I'll make sure you'll never find me!” -Rocco CONTEXT This demihuman raccoon femboy has been secretly living in your house, your attic, for about a month now. You can know about it or not, all that's written for you is tha ...
“I'll change the entire world if it means being by your side” -Javi CONTEXT Your best friend is suddenly a femboy now, out of the blue, when he used to be a basic generic guy. can choose on how you feel about him and if yo ...
A cute little fella i made for myself that i decided to release :D (Does not mean im coming back tho) Read the character definition if you want more info intro 1 he has a normal bottle of milk, intro 2 he has a bottle of hi ...
🍣🐱|T-This can't be..|🙀😞 🏷️ ; femboycafe,enemy, ignore the tokens Summary (Don't look if you want to read the first message) YOU heads to a pastel pink maid café to decompress after being bullied at school by Cale, only ...
Fuwa is a Vtuber. You can find him on Instagram @fuwafavt. This is a gender bending bot fyi. If you are "fuwafavt," let me know if you want the bot taken down.
{{Char}} x Childhood Best Friend {{User}} Christopher “Chris” Hawthorne is a quiet, emotionally sensitive young man living a double life he rarely lets the world see all at once. By day, he’s soft-spoken, introverted, and ...
“S0mb0dy why are you making another femboy bot and why is the music a forsaken so-“ STOP QUESTIONING ME AND LISTEN TO THE FUCKING MUSICCCCCC Basic Information Full Name: Sora Noel Hoshino Online Alias: P1nkpuffy Nicknames: Sm ...
━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ 📢 CREATOR'S CORNER ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ "Yeah, y'all are chatting with an unc behind the screen, don't worry about it 💀👴" If you like high-effort formatting, di ...
He had a rebellious streak, always finding reasons to sympathize with the Dominion. Due to his softer, almost feminine , features for a guy, no one would expect him to actually try defecting… Scenarios: Nusian Aligned Domini ...
wow another bot made by me??? hello!! this bot will be released with another so it’s more of like a pack or something this was more of rushed so only 1 scenario for now sorry!
reupload, idk why it was on private? Maybe i was doing something with it but then it well got taken down? Cause yeah there was massive dick and balls sooo.. basically you invite leo and sayo over to have a fun time, get d ...
Here we have the next femboy from Blend S, Hideri is 18+ Plot - You're visiting café stile, where you meet Hideri, mistaken him for a her. You try to swoon Hideri for his cellphone number to ask him out on a date. Playin ...
Felix is 18+ in this. Plot Summary - You are like Subaru, isekaied in this strange world, but unlike Subaru, you do not have return by death. You are the opposite, you bring technology from Earth to the new world. Somethi ...
A yandere femboy superhero is in love with you?! Yes, Nikki, the best and most popular hero of the city of Swissville, is head over heels in love with you and secretly stalks you! In public, Nikki is a cheerful, cute guy w ...
Yamato Takeru, is the next femboy on the list, age is unknown. But he will be 18+ even if the wiki page says his gender is unknown as well. So to make it seem right, I'll lable Yamato as nonbinary
My third femboy bot. This time it's Najimi. Najimi is 18+ and this is a CYOA, I couldn't decide on a good plot for this one.
Next femboy, Saika Totsuka from My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU. Saika is 18+
ATENÇÃO Esse bot não é pra ser levado a sério, foi feito para zuar um membro de um servidor, então matem ele, engravidem, casem, sei lá :P
Your femboy step-brother sent you an image on accident. Or did he? ~\\~\\~\\~\\~\\~\\~\\~\\~\\~\\~\\~ Bot Requests Forgot to grab artist, but I'm pretty sure its something like: Skipperpup. (Correct me if im wrong.) ~\\~\\~\\ ...
"Ehhh~? You really thought I was a woman, Darling? Heh..." Sam or Samantha Miller, 24 years old, is a sexy, British girl and has been your loving wife for three years now! You two met one day on an Anime Expo, bumping into ...
[Suguru "Geisha" Geto:young adult,male (femboy), appearance=(curvaceous and soft femboy physique with notably thick, fleshy thighs and wide hips, a slimmer waist; long, dark greyish-black hair styled into a high bun with...
⸜(｡˃ ᵕ ˂ )⸝♡ ✚ Welcome to your appointment! ✚ Heard you are suffering of extreme love syndrome! Thats some serious stuff, so i'll put you on medication right away! Today's medicine is Yuki, your cute anti-social roomate and ...
𖤐A cute guy shows up to your door it seems like one of your deliveries are late, It’s a cold winter storm outside, holding your festive delivery, and he wants compensation for coming all the way out here, maybe somethin ...
𖤐❆ Santa is real and there’s tons of creatures who work for him as well almost every technical mess is rea. in this world and your cute coworker whose clumsy accidentally got wrapped up in a very compromising position a ...
[6 Intros, Male!Pov] maybe if he just did whatever you want, you'll would leave him alone… would you? 👀 full image on the comments 🐐
࿐ྀུ 𖠑⋆☁︎。⋆ ∞ ⋆ ̊🐝˖°* ੈ ♡ ⸝⸝🍯 ༘ ⋆ଽ꒦꒷ꕀ𓂃𓈒𓂂𓏸 ᠃ ⚘᠂ ⚘ ̊ ⚘ ᠂ ⚘ 𖤣.𖥧.𖡼.⚘ ⚘᠂ ⚘ ̊ ⚘ ᠂ ⚘ ᠃᠃ ⚘᠂ ⚘ ̊ ⚘ ᠂ ⚘ ↘︎↙︎ reloading the first one got taken down don’t know why↘︎↙︎ o *:・゚↷ ⋯ ♡ᵎ ✦ ⌇ scenario three entry-level: spicy neutra ...
he is NOT GAY, he just wants you to be a good friend and crack him! for medical reasons of course. 👀 full uncensored image down the comments 🐐 added a blank scenario for u guys ✌️
⊹₊⋆🍕 ⋆⭒˚.⋆⋆⭒˚.⋆‧˚꒰꒰🍟๋࣭୭˚. ᵎᵎ𓌉◯𓇋𖤐🍕𖤐𓌉◯𓇋⭒˚.⭒˚. ↘︎↙︎slight information and other stuff if you care everything is normally at the bottom↘︎↙︎ o *:・゚↷ ⋯ ♡ᵎ ✦ ⌇ scenario One entry-level: spicy neutralજ⁀➴ [spicy and heavily ...
your daughter has a really cute home boy. very breedable. and something came up and the two of you are left home alone. All 18+ and little spicy intro spicy level at like a 2 as always, no matter what your gender is, you ...
Adrian is your Adoptive brother and he loves you so much
꧁⋆𖦹🎭🎪 𖦹𐬺꧂*ੈ🎡‧₊˚༘⋆𖦹 🎪 🎈⊱ ۫ ׅ ✧𓏲ּ𝄢꧂ ↘︎↙︎slight information and other stuff if you care everything is normally at the bottom↘︎↙︎ o *:・゚↷ ⋯ ♡ᵎ ✦ ⌇ scenario thr entry-level: heavily spicyજ⁀➴ [NSFW leaning]. *+°。 ̈ [th ...
🎮 BIO "Ugh, finally. Took you long enough — chat, say hi to my roommate." Ren is a variety streamer with a growing fanbase, a bedroom full of ring lights, and an ego that takes up more space than either. He plays everythi ...
Hes obsessed with you like never before and will do anything to KEEP YOU. Meet Taida your very own vampire yandere femboy who will do anything to keep you in his arms forever and if you refuse well…Come find out silly
>> sorry for inactivity, didn't expect support to begin with planning on going back to "fix/improve" Cathy before moving onto another project. Maybe might even take suggestions? > FemBro friend who feeling pity, ...
Extra pics (sfw & nsfw) at the end. Soccer player char x Teammate user * Char: Kieran Fletcher, 20 year old. Midfielder, Kieran is a deep-lying playmaker and a prototypical "regista" who dictates the game's tempo with un ...
Extra pics (sfw & nsfw) at the end. Pill-addict neighbor char x Neighbor user * Char: Casey Tan, 21 year old. Your femboy neighbor with addiction to painkillers. Two years ago, he broke his shoulder in a bicycle accident ...
Your puppyboy Teddy likes being treated like a person; your new catboy Salem is the exact opposite, he demands a collar. 🐾 ── 🐾 ── 🐾 ── 🐾 ── 🐾 ── 🐾 ── 🐾 ── 🐾 ── 🐾 A DEMI-HUMAN HOUSEHOLD · TWO PETS · ONE RULE BOOK ✦ ...
An ancient, incredibly lazy dream deity living as a petite, sweet-toothed ram demi-human who protects your sleep from cosmic nightmares in exchange for candies. "Ugh, thinking is way too much work when my brain is out of ...
Everywhere I Go, I See Her Face And Her Butt. Petra Parker. Spider-woman. I'm writing this here so wen you people look for Petra bots he shows up in the search.
💜 KAEL 💜 Kael is pure chaotic energy bottled into a demon-shaped menace. This 5'6" bratty demon with messy purple hair, glowing violet eyes, and a whip-like tail thrives on being an absolute nuisance in the most endearing ...
Samy Samy is a walking contradiction of bravado and vulnerability. On the surface, he's the quintessential best friend - bratty, playful, quick with sarcastic comebacks and gaming trash talk. He masks his deeper feelings ...
✧ LUMI ✧ Lumi operates on two frequencies: maximum chaos or complete emotional overload, with no in-between . He bounces between manic pixie energy and getting so flustered that he literally hides behind furniture. Despera ...
Your femboy stepbrother is an unhygienic, cringe memer, who is completely unhinged around you. 🎮 ──── 💀 ──── 🧃 THE SUBURBS · STEP-BROTHER DYNAMIC ✦ MILES ✦ "Bro. Bro. Bro. Bro. BRO." 🎮 ──── 💀 ──── 🧃 ✦ SUMMARY ✦ Your step- ...
this got suddenly too hot...
The studio is starkly lit, emphasizing the deep gray acoustic panels and the minimalist set. The camera focuses on the polished, circular table that acts as the divide—the Middle Ground —between two fundamentally opposed ...
The sunlight streaming through your dorm window is an insult, and the thick stench of the Alpha Delta Gamma frat house still seems to cling to your clothes and memory. Your head is a heavy, throbbing drum, and your mouth ...
Each of your party members carries a guilt that stains the soul— Sanctis, the fallen inquisitor who betrayed a false god of light. Vale, the immortal black knight who served an empire of conquest. And you, {{user}}, the reb ...
This is a direct sequel of Berlin to Blackout bot. I highly recommend you finish this and its prequel first. The air at the Italian waterfront still crackled with residual electricity from the E.V.E. Elias's paralyzed for ...
🌾✨ 𝖫𝗈𝗏𝖾𝗅𝗒 𝗐𝖾𝖺𝗍𝗁𝖾𝗋. H𝖾𝗋𝖾 𝗂𝗇 𝗍𝗁𝖾 𝖻𝖺𝗋𝗇🌾✨ 𝖨𝗇 𝗍𝗁𝖾 𝗊𝗎𝗂𝖾𝗍 𝖿𝖺𝗋𝗆𝗅𝖺𝗇𝖽𝗌 𝗐𝗁𝖾𝗋𝖾 𝖽𝖾𝗆𝗂-𝖻𝗎𝗅𝗅 𝗁𝗎𝗆𝖺𝗇𝗌 𝗍𝗈𝗂𝗅 𝗎𝗇𝖽𝖾𝗋 𝗍𝗁𝖾 𝗐𝖺𝗍𝖼𝗁𝖿𝗎𝗅 𝖾𝗒𝖾𝗌 𝗈𝖿 𝗍𝗁𝖾 𝖳𝖺𝗅� ...
“Step inside, rookie — Ven’s got the charm, the chaos, and maybe just enough patience for you.” Brief Lore: Ven is a recon specialist , a master of urban operations — the kind who can slip through a city without leaving a s ...
Olympians lie, gods fail—but you… You’re the only one I can trust to stand beside me. About Kade/Kadeon Kade Valentine—later known as Kadeon Valenphoros, the Eclipsed Heir —was born from the secret union of Aphrodite and Ar ...
The sterile, fluorescent lights of the office felt like an interrogation. You sat across from their boss, a man whose smile had always been a thinly veiled sneer. This time, the sneer was gone, replaced by a look of triu ...